No sure if anyone noticed, but the site was down for half a day today.
Looking into migrating the site to another provider, any thoughts?? (This is a definite thing that will happen BTW, so expect another day of downtime in the future and an update.)
ok, that explains it, I definitely noticed downtime and freaked out lol, I was like “oh noes China has decided that my stupid superhero stories set in a video game universe are undermining the social and moral fabric of the people’s republic.”
Also something happened to the wiki – our main page now talks about toronto wedding photography, and we have a gaggle of new users? (Yeah, I occasionally pop into the wiki if I can’t sleep at night until I bang out something about http://wiki.kupopolis.info/index.php?title=Tzu_Mao or whatever. There’s lots of random crap in the attic of my brain.)
Besides the front page, I don’t think anything has actually been deleted (if you look back in the changelog, everything is still there and all the articles are there if you know exactly the name you want to find.)
But as for switching ISPs – exercise judgement, Mike. Whichever one you think is best.
So, the wiki is currently under a massive spam attack. Tons of summy accounts are constantly being created, dummy articles being posted. Since it’s 1:00 am here in the PST, there’s nothing that’s to be done about it until Mike wakes up and takes care of it.
… Someone remind me why we thought it was a good idea to leave the wiki open so anyone could create an account without admin approval?
…wow, we have over 110,000 “active users.” If you check the profiles most of them seem to link back to a specific site, though (Riverside Saigon seems to have it in for us?)
I wish I had noticed it earlier, but obviously a wiki is more of a reference of “oh I need to check that thing” than constantly looking for updates.
Matt got a hold of me and I updated the config files for the wiki to only allow the admin (WikiSysop) to create new users.
I think moving forward we may need to consider our long-term strategies for site upkeep. We are using free software, but as you can see, they are easily hacked.
I’m going to look into integrating our phpbb logins to work with the mediawiki. However, when I move servers, I think I will upgrade us to either nodeBB or discourse, so I may hold off until I make that change.
Holy fuck, yeah, good idea.
Let us know if there’s a financial component, Mike. We could talk, see what can be chipped in/who can chip in.
So, further update: Mike’s entirely disabled both account creation and page editing. The first move shut the door on the invasion, and the second move disabled the enemy bot-usernames from multiplying their damage.
The next step, of course, is cleanup: blocking the fake users and deleting the posts they’ve created (because there’s no way in hell we’re just going to leave their keyword-laden word bombs on our beloved kupopolis). But this is a monumental task even now that the floodgates have shut: as Travis pointed out earlier, at one point we had 110k “active users” on the wiki – which makes sense because, near as I can figure, this invasion began in earnest in mid December. But it means that, even with the numbers I individually was able to block, the enemy we face numbers in the thousands.
Unless Mike has a way to wave his hands at some code and eliminate large swaths of fake usernames at once, I can personally attest to how much clicking and computer-screen-looking this will take.
Unless Mike has a way to wave his hands at some code and eliminate large swaths of fake usernames at once, I can personally attest to how much clicking and computer-screen-looking this will take.
Yeah, I do, I can just drop any changes made this year. Gonna clone the database, select all where date contains 2018, and drop.
Wow, that’s one big-ass deletion log. There’s stil a few spammy keyword articles around (clicking “Random Page” still returns “Are You Finding the Most From Your Life Coverage?”) but at least the front page is safe.
You know. All those ads I sifted through, all that spam, all those fake users with their fake posts about various things from viagra to brand new ways to copy your PS2 games (yes, PS2), to a/c repair to auto maintenance…
The one thing nobody wanted to address in all those posts cluttering up our board, the one thing we still don’t know as a community…
is how goddamn much is minimum fucking wage for a fucking waitress in motherfucking Arizona.
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Wow, that’s one big-ass deletion log. There’s stil a few spammy keyword articles around (clicking “Random Page” still returns “Are You Finding the Most From Your Life Coverage?”) but at least the front page is safe.
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In the interest of trying to keep the clutter out and kill off the last of the wikispam, I sat down to try and delete what was left. The volume of dummy posts still there in the history is massive; so massive that eventually the deletion log got so huge that I couldn’t see the spam posts anymore unless I had the wiki hide Sysop’s edits.
… This is clearly a task that will take more than just an idle, sleepless hour or two. Like a daily quest.
I have a copy of the database from last august that I can revert to, but we would loose any changes in the last 6 months. The question is, did anyone do anything in the last 6 months that they don’t have backed up someplace?
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I have a copy of the database from last august that I can revert to, but we would loose any changes in the last 6 months. The question is, did anyone do anything in the last 6 months that they don’t have backed up someplace?
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I…don’t…think so? There might be some typo or something I randomly fixed? I think my last big writing was like last march?
I went on a big Starfighter/aircraft kick for some reason (probably because Commissar Binkov’s youtube channel ran a special on Su-35 vs F-35?)
-http://wiki.kupopolis.info/index.php?title=Predator
-http://wiki.kupopolis.info/index.php?title=Banshee
-http://wiki.kupopolis.info/index.php?title=Tornado
-http://wiki.kupopolis.info/index.php?title=Scimitar
-http://wiki.kupopolis.info/index.php?title=Quickdraw
-http://wiki.kupopolis.info/index.php?title=Rapier
…and I also updated some posts relating to Damcyan/Fabul, because they’re potentially interesting places that I’d like to revisit in the future, but that’s all from over a year ago.
Oh, and Matt and I are constantly updating the list of playable characters in Manacalibur
-http://wiki.kupopolis.info/index.php?title=Manacalibur
…mostly I’ve had the attitude that I want to finish CoH season 1 first before I put anything relating to it on the wiki, but sometimes I randomly think about what fighters and tanks are like in the Kupopolis universe and can’t sleep unless I do something?
Isn’t there a way to just dump everything that was posted in December and January? I am 99% sure there were no wiki edits made in at least the last 2 months.
I didn’t do anything over the last 6 months… (sob)
was thinking about doing something recently, but I should clearly wait for the current round of purges to clean things up.
I was just thinking I was going to make another button for “City of Heroes” next to proper, because I didn’t want to make a whole other “Gaiden” wiki on top of Reborn/Neo/Legends/Proper but I still wanted CoH associated stuff to all be in one place.
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I was just thinking I was going to make another button for “City of Heroes” next to proper, because I didn’t want to make a whole other “Gaiden” wiki on top of Reborn/Neo/Legends/Proper but I still wanted CoH associated stuff to all be in one place.
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Organizing links gets into what I do for a living! Its important to think of the page by “user stories”. We’d have a few different types of users of the wiki – current active writers, current active readers, nostalgic readers.
Active users as both writers and readers are looking for kupop reborn wiki data about current projects. Nostalgic readers are looking for pre-reborn wiki data most likely as a reference for new material.
Based on this, we really should have it dived by “Current projects” and “Past projects”, with proper being Past. Reborn would be at the top of “active” as a hub, and proper would be at the top of the inactive big as a hub. We would continue listing other projects small as they are beneath these two big projects, but remove red links if there is no content for them. (Treat these projects as addendums to the core info)
As we write more, we may need to add disambiguation pages as there are more divergent timelines now. (“Do you mean Celiose Cole from Kupopolis Neo, or Celiose Cole from Kupopolis Reborn?”
Well, I defer to Mike’s superior link-organizing expertise!
Though, as Matt can attest, my feelings on the wiki are a little complicated. During late-period Proper I often worried that we were using wiki posts as substitutes for actual story. But of course, trying to piece the story together ten years later, it’s an invaluable reference, and it’s possible to get a lot of mileage out of discovering old people’s stuff (nearly 1500 articles is a lot of content!) And, of course, it’s especially handy when discussing things from the AOL era.
But I’m going to try for a more middle path going forward…having all the vital statistics for a character or something in one place is handy, and certain world-building is really helpful, but I don’t feel the need to post plot summaries of stuff I just posted. (I mean, especially since all my CoH writing is all in one place and relatively compact – it doesn’t take THAT long to read all of it.)
oh, and although you’ve almost certainly considered this Mike: what about image hosting?
oh, and although you’ve almost certainly considered this Mike: what about image hosting?
I was just going to permit uploading images to the wiki once I get the user logins sorted out on the new host.
Right now it looks like I’m pretty much building out a linux box with the wiki and updated forums on it that lives in the cloud. It seems that we as a group have better luck hosting content privately.